"J's Minmaxing"//Thyandis Campaign

Kaelik · Post by **Kaelik** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:49 am

No, because his DM is an idiot.

Ghostwheel · Post by **Ghostwheel** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:55 am

May be a little late, but if you want a quick reference guide to a decent bard that focuses on casting, this is a start: http://www.dnd-wiki.org/wiki/Sublime_Si ... r_Build%29
(The reason for half-elf is that you get Calm Emotions with a DC equal to your perform check.)

Alternatively, here's a more melee-centered build that you can adapt as you like: http://www.dnd-wiki.org/wiki/Bladesinge ... r_Build%29
Now, this one's less bard, but is mostly there for synergy with Song of the White Raven and Dragonfire Inspiration.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:28 pm

Unfamiliar with 3.5 perhaps, but he's not an idiot, just working from decades old campaign notes. It's all working decently and the language thing was seriously my choice. It progressed in a logical series of events, and Fen basically found a door saying "This way to enlightenment, mind the gap" and chose to go in, because, lacking any knowledge of what will happen later, there's no particular reason we'll return that way, and it's not exactly a stop over in Bhangbhangduc, but more "Hey, let's go to the elemental plane of monks!"

I'm pretty sure I can find some way to change my alignment back, and we're only using alignment because, honestly, the best way to run 3.5 with an unfamiliar DM and a new player is by the book, with few houserules.

Kaelik · Post by **Kaelik** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:01 pm

No Prak, your DM is stupid because he thinks that people should have to take a level in class X when they learn something from people of class X.

That's dumb no matter what fucking version of D&D you are familiar with.

It's actually impossible in 4e, and it's double fucking monkey retarded in 2e (and impossible for non humans).

No one who makes class dipping mandatory when you learn something from people is ever not dumb.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:21 pm

So, ignoring Kaelik's bullshit, as usual.

So, Fen was killed, because he tried to punch shit in the face. Yeah, I know, but it seemed appropriate to the character, more or less.

So now I've rolled up a Cleric of Apollo. We'll see if this goes any better, especially with a pet Giant Raven Clr1 of Apollo and, essentially, the Epirus Bow of Vampire Slaying.

mean_liar · Post by **mean_liar** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:16 am

Koumei wrote:Maybe make your guitar a +10 Guitar of Hard Rock (10,000GP), applying the bonus to Perform (Guitar) checks and also IIRC making it hilariously hard to break. I mean, it blows a huge wad of cash and isn't particularly useful or douchey, but still means you're clearly going to be awesome at making Perform checks.

I make it a point to ALWAYS buy a suit of badass clothes that never get dirty/self-clean/protect against mud and rain. 'Cause I'm the goddamn hero.

Carry on.

Lago PARANOIA · Post by **Lago PARANOIA** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:39 am

The Arcane Disciple feat from Complete Divine can get you out of a ton of jams if you choose the right domain and have a good enough wisdom score -- especially if you choose a domain like Spell or a planar domain. The wisdom score requirements sounds like it might be a problem, though.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:25 am

mean_liar wrote: I make it a point to ALWAYS buy a suit of badass clothes that never get dirty/self-clean/protect against mud and rain. 'Cause I'm the goddamn hero.

Yeah, it's one of those nice things that every hero really needs if they're not going for the Die Hard gritty look.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:33 am

So, I've mentioned that the DM who's running this game hands out ~MTP Bennies to characters in his games at character creation (it's one of the things I like about him, actually. I've tried to implement it myself, but my players didn't know what to fucking pick. Because they're badger dicks). I mean, the bennies get explicit rules, but you can ask for pretty much anything, and you get what I've termed "plot debt" for it. For example... my cleric's Bennie is The Apollonian Bow. Basically I just asked for a flaming burst mighty composite bow that plays by Tome magic item rules and launches glowing energy arrows (+1/3 character level atk/dam, bonus damage always equals strength mod, flaming burst, magically generated arrows that radiate sunlight). Oh, and I wrote that my character is the son of Apollo. In return, basically, my character is persona non grata to anyone who hates the gods (a surprisingly high number compared to normal games), and is shafted by "No Gods Allowed" zones and such, attracting attention if he uses too much power, and is in danger of overdosing on MTP, basically, if I use my magic "My daddy's Apollo" powers too often, I may ascend to godhood and lose my character as he becomes a static, essentially non-freewilled construct.

I recently found out that it does a hell of a lot more, with 4 more powers that were revealed to me, and another 11 hinted at (plus mega super special awesome something if I give up my character). So... this is what the bow now does:

Functions as Holy Symbol (+2 if it ever matters)
Channel Touch Spells
Channel Turn Undead (+2 to any relevant rolls)
Spell slots can be expended to:
- Increase damage by +5pts/spell level
- Increase number of arrows fired (up to +2 arrows/spell level)
  - this use is an AOE, radius =10'+(5'/arrow beyond the first), DC=expended spell slot DC
  - This can channel touch spells.

So... I can expend a 1st level spell, and channel Inflict Light Wounds into a 20'r AOE, capable of hitting more mooks than Mass Inflict could, albeit at a lower Caster Level bonus on damage (more than made up for with 3 1d8+11 plus 1d8* Fire arrows). Plus I can increase area by blowing higher level spells.

I can turn Slay Living into a 60' radius, 110' range spell. That's pretty awesome.

So... anyone able to think of any particularly awesome tricks I can now achieve with my bow?

*The Flaming Burst actually improves in die size, apparently.